Health Care And Immigration Dominate 2nd Democratic Debate | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

Health Care And Immigration Dominate 2nd Democratic Debate | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


>>THANKS, MIKA. HI THERE, I’M STEPHANIE RUHLE. HI THERE, I’M STEPHANIE RUHLE. IT IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 31st, AND IT IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 31st, AND A BUSY DAY IT IS, SO LET’S GET A BUSY DAY IT IS, SO LET’S GET STARTED. STARTED. ONE DEBATE DOWN AND ANOTHER TO ONE DEBATE DOWN AND ANOTHER TO GO. GO. TONIGHT WE’RE GOING TO SEE PART TONIGHT WE’RE GOING TO SEE PART 2 OF THIS DEMOCRATIC 2 OF THIS DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND A LOT OF PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND A LOT OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE TONIGHT WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE TONIGHT WILL HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT WE SAW WILL HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT WE SAW LAST NIGHT IN PART 1. LAST NIGHT IN PART 1. IT WAS PACKED WITH FIERY MOMENTS IT WAS PACKED WITH FIERY MOMENTS FROM HEALTH CARE TO IMMIGRATION FROM HEALTH CARE TO IMMIGRATION TO ECONOMICS. TO ECONOMICS. THE IDEALOGICAL DIVIDE BETWEEN THE IDEALOGICAL DIVIDE BETWEEN THE PROGRESSIVES AND THE THE PROGRESSIVES AND THE MODERATES WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC MODERATES WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS FRONT AND CENTER. PARTY WAS FRONT AND CENTER.>>I THINK DEMOCRATS WIN WHEN WE>>I THINK DEMOCRATS WIN WHEN WE RUN ON REAL SOLUTIONS, NOT RUN ON REAL SOLUTIONS, NOT IMPOSSIBLE PROMISES. IMPOSSIBLE PROMISES. WHEN WE RUN ON THINGS THAT ARE WHEN WE RUN ON THINGS THAT ARE WORKABLE, NOT FAIRY TALE WORKABLE, NOT FAIRY TALE ECONOMICS. ECONOMICS.>>I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY>>I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYBODY GOES TO ALL THE TROUBLE ANYBODY GOES TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES JUST TO TALK ABOUT UNITED STATES JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY CAN’T DO AND WHAT WE REALLY CAN’T DO AND SHOULDN’T FIGHT FOR. SHOULDN’T FIGHT FOR.>>IF IT’S TRUE THAT IF WE>>IF IT’S TRUE THAT IF WE EMBRACE A FAR LEFT AGENDA, EMBRACE A FAR LEFT AGENDA, THEY’RE GOING TO SEE WE’RE A THEY’RE GOING TO SEE WE’RE A BUNCH OF CRAZY SOCIALISTS. BUNCH OF CRAZY SOCIALISTS. IF WE EMBRACE A CONSERVATIVE IF WE EMBRACE A CONSERVATIVE AGENDA, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY’RE AGENDA, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO? GOING TO DO? THEY’RE GOING TO SEE WE’RE A THEY’RE GOING TO SEE WE’RE A BUNCH OF CRAZY SOCIALISTS. BUNCH OF CRAZY SOCIALISTS. LET’S GO OUT AND DEFEND IT. LET’S GO OUT AND DEFEND IT.>>I THINK IF WE’RE GOING TO>>I THINK IF WE’RE GOING TO FORCE AMERICANS TO MAKE THESE FORCE AMERICANS TO MAKE THESE RADICAL CHANGES — THROW YOUR RADICAL CHANGES — THROW YOUR HANDS UP, BUT — OHO, I CAN DO HANDS UP, BUT — OHO, I CAN DO IT. IT. BUT YOU HAVEN’T I AM REPLY BUT YOU HAVEN’T I AM REPLY MENDTE — MENDTE — IMPLEMENTED THE PLANS. IMPLEMENTED THE PLANS. US MAYORS AND GOVERNORS ARE US MAYORS AND GOVERNORS ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK UP THE PIECES SUPPOSED TO PICK UP THE PIECES AND THERE IS NO PREPARATION. AND THERE IS NO PREPARATION. YOU CAN’T JUST SPRING A PLAN ON YOU CAN’T JUST SPRING A PLAN ON THE WORLD AND EXPECT IT TO THE WORLD AND EXPECT IT TO SUCCEED. SUCCEED.>>WHAT I DON’T LIKE ABOUT THIS>>WHAT I DON’T LIKE ABOUT THIS ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW, WHAT I DON’T ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW, WHAT I DON’T LIKE ABOUT IT AT ALL IS THAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT AT ALL IS THAT WE ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT WINNING ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT WINNING AN ARGUMENT THAN WINNING AN AN ARGUMENT THAN WINNING AN ELECTION. ELECTION.>>THIS ISN’T JUST A CHOICE>>THIS ISN’T JUST A CHOICE BETWEEN THE LEFT AND THE CENTER. BETWEEN THE LEFT AND THE CENTER. WHAT FOLKS WANT IS A FAIR SHOT. WHAT FOLKS WANT IS A FAIR SHOT. THE WAY I WON, THE WAY WE CAN THE WAY I WON, THE WAY WE CAN WIN IS ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THE WIN IS ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THE ECONOMY AND DEMOCRACY THAT ECONOMY AND DEMOCRACY THAT AREN’T WORKING FOR MOST PEOPLE. AREN’T WORKING FOR MOST PEOPLE.>>IN THIS DISCUSSION WE’VE>>IN THIS DISCUSSION WE’VE TALKED ABOUT TAKING PRIVATE TALKED ABOUT TAKING PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM UNION HEALTH INSURANCE FROM UNION MEMBERS IN THE INDUSTRIAL MID MEMBERS IN THE INDUSTRIAL MID WERS WERS WEST, WEAVER TALKED ABOUT WEST, WEAVER TALKED ABOUT DECRIMINALIZING THE BORDER. DECRIMINALIZING THE BORDER. I DON’T THINK THATS AN’S AN AGEN I DON’T THINK THATS AN’S AN AGEN WE CAN WORK ON AND WIN. WE CAN WORK ON AND WIN. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A SHOWER THAT WE HAVEN’T HAD IN SHOWER THAT WE HAVEN’T HAD IN MORE THAN 30 YEARS. MORE THAN 30 YEARS.>>IN THIS COUNTRY MONEY BUYS>>IN THIS COUNTRY MONEY BUYS INFLUENCE, ACCESS AND INFLUENCE, ACCESS AND INCREASINGLY OUTCOMES. INCREASINGLY OUTCOMES.>>FUNKIF YOU THINK THIS WILL DE>>FUNKIF YOU THINK THIS WILL DE WITH THE HATRED THE PRESIDENT WITH THE HATRED THE PRESIDENT HAS BROUGHT UP IN THIS COUNTRY, HAS BROUGHT UP IN THIS COUNTRY, THEN I’M AFRAID THE DEMOCRATS THEN I’M AFRAID THE DEMOCRATS WILL SEE SOME VERY DARK DAYS. WILL SEE SOME VERY DARK DAYS.>>OUR TEAM IS IN DETROIT>>OUR TEAM IS IN DETROIT COVERING ALL THE ANGLES, JOINING COVERING ALL THE ANGLES, JOINING ME NOW, GARRETT HAAKE AND ALI ME NOW, GARRETT HAAKE AND ALI VITALE. VITALE. FIRST TALK OF THE NIGHT. FIRST TALK OF THE NIGHT. WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU SAW THE WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU SAW THE SPLIT. SPLIT.>>Reporter: IT ONLY MAKES SENSE>>Reporter: IT ONLY MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU HIT 2019 AND 2020, THE WHEN YOU HIT 2019 AND 2020, THE DEBATE IS HOW YOU ACTUALLY DO DEBATE IS HOW YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT. THAT. YOU SAW LOTS OF WAYS OF BEING A YOU SAW LOTS OF WAYS OF BEING A DEMOCRAT, GETTING TO THAT EVENT DEMOCRAT, GETTING TO THAT EVENT EVENTUAL GOAL OF UNIVERSAL EVENTUAL GOAL OF UNIVERSAL COVERAGE. COVERAGE. THIS HINGES TO ME ON PRIVATE THIS HINGES TO ME ON PRIVATE INSURANCE. INSURANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT BILL de BLASIODEB IF YOU LOOK AT BILL de BLASIODEB ELIZABETH WARREN, THEY’RE SAYING ELIZABETH WARREN, THEY’RE SAYING MEDICARE FOR ALL. MEDICARE FOR ALL. THE PUBLIC OPTION KEEPING A ROLE THE PUBLIC OPTION KEEPING A ROLE FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE. FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE. IT DID ELICIT SOME OF THE MOST IT DID ELICIT SOME OF THE MOST FIERY EXCHANGES OF THE EVENING. FIERY EXCHANGES OF THE EVENING. TAKE A LOOK AT HOW CANDIDATES TAKE A LOOK AT HOW CANDIDATES CONTENDED WITH THAT ISSUE. CONTENDED WITH THAT ISSUE.>>MEDICARE FOR ALL IS>>MEDICARE FOR ALL IS COMPREHENSIVE. COMPREHENSIVE. IT COVERS ALL HEALTH CARE NEEDS IT COVERS ALL HEALTH CARE NEEDS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. IT WILL FINALLY INCLUDE DENTAL IT WILL FINALLY INCLUDE DENTAL CARE, HEARING AIDS AND CARE, HEARING AIDS AND EYEGLASSES. EYEGLASSES.>>YOU DON’T KNOW THAT, BERNIE.>>YOU DON’T KNOW THAT, BERNIE.>>I DO KNOW IT, I WROTE THE>>I DO KNOW IT, I WROTE THE DAMN BILL. DAMN BILL.>>HIS MATH IS WRONG.>>HIS MATH IS WRONG. THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING. THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING. HIS MATH IS WRONG. HIS MATH IS WRONG. IT’S BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED THAT IT’S BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED THAT IF ALL THE BILLS WERE PAID AT IF ALL THE BILLS WERE PAID AT MEDICARE RATE, WHICH IS MEDICARE RATE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY — I THINK IT’S IN SPECIFICALLY — I THINK IT’S IN SECTION 1200 OF THEIR BILL, THEN SECTION 1200 OF THEIR BILL, THEN MANY HOSPITALS IN THIS COUNTRY MANY HOSPITALS IN THIS COUNTRY WOULD CLOSE. WOULD CLOSE.>>ALL RIGHT, ALI, WE SAW WHERE>>ALL RIGHT, ALI, WE SAW WHERE ALL THE DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE ALL THE DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE SPECTRUM, BUT LET’S TAKE US TO SPECTRUM, BUT LET’S TAKE US TO THE BIG RACE. THE BIG RACE. HOW DO THEY FARE AGAINST THE HOW DO THEY FARE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT’S CURRENT POSITION ON PRESIDENT’S CURRENT POSITION ON HEALTH CARE? HEALTH CARE? BECAUSE I’M PRETTY SURE HE RAN BECAUSE I’M PRETTY SURE HE RAN ON REPEAL AND REPLACE, AND RIGHT ON REPEAL AND REPLACE, AND RIGHT NOW AT BEST, IS HE DEFENDING NOW AT BEST, IS HE DEFENDING OBAMACARE? OBAMACARE?>>Reporter: CERTAINLY HEALTH>>Reporter: CERTAINLY HEALTH CARE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MISSED CARE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, YOU COULD SAY, OF OPPORTUNITIES, YOU COULD SAY, OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AS HE GOES OUT PRESIDENT TRUMP AS HE GOES OUT AND SAYS PROMISES MADE, PROMISES AND SAYS PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT. KEPT. CERTAINLY THAT’S NOT ONE OF CERTAINLY THAT’S NOT ONE OF THEM. THEM. I THINK FOR DEMOCRATS WHEN YOU I THINK FOR DEMOCRATS WHEN YOU TAKE IT TO A GENERAL ELECTION TAKE IT TO A GENERAL ELECTION YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS YOU HAVE ALL THESE WIDE RANGES OF PLANS, ALL THESE WIDE RANGES OF PLANS, BUT ALL OF THEM, EVEN IF A BUT ALL OF THEM, EVEN IF A DEMOCRAT BECOMES PRESIDENT IN DEMOCRAT BECOMES PRESIDENT IN 2021, NEED TO BES TO BE PASSED I 2021, NEED TO BES TO BE PASSED I CONGRESS, AND GARRETT AND I ON CONGRESS, AND GARRETT AND I ON CAPITOL HILL KNOW HOW THAT GOES. CAPITOL HILL KNOW HOW THAT GOES. FROM TALKING TO VOTERS WE KNOW FROM TALKING TO VOTERS WE KNOW THAT’S AN ESSENTIAL CONCERN, BUT THAT’S AN ESSENTIAL CONCERN, BUT I THINK IT’S ALSO GOING TO BE I THINK IT’S ALSO GOING TO BE HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE SENATE, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE SENATE, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH CONGRESS, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH CONGRESS, AND HOW DO YOU DO IT IN A AND HOW DO YOU DO IT IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION, BECAUSE BIPARTISAN FASHION, BECAUSE REALITY ON THE GROUND IS THAT’S REALITY ON THE GROUND IS THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.>>GARRETT, YOU BOTH SPENT THE>>GARRETT, YOU BOTH SPENT THE NIGHT WITH ALL THE CAMPAIGNS, NIGHT WITH ALL THE CAMPAIGNS, AND OBVIOUSLY EVERY CANDIDATE IN AND OBVIOUSLY EVERY CANDIDATE IN HIS OR HER TEAM SAID THEY HIS OR HER TEAM SAID THEY CRUSHED IT. CRUSHED IT. BUT THOSE CANDIDATES WHO ARE BUT THOSE CANDIDATES WHO ARE POLLING AT 1% OR LESS, IT REALLY POLLING AT 1% OR LESS, IT REALLY WAS MAKE OR BREAK. WAS MAKE OR BREAK. SO WHO DID REALLY STAND OUT? SO WHO DID REALLY STAND OUT?>>FOR THE 1 PERCENTERS, I SAW>>FOR THE 1 PERCENTERS, I SAW THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY LAST THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY LAST NIGHT. NIGHT. I THINK BULLOCK WHO CAME IN I THINK BULLOCK WHO CAME IN BASICALLY INTRODUCING HIMSELF BASICALLY INTRODUCING HIMSELF DID A GOOD JOB. DID A GOOD JOB. AND DELANEY, I THINK HE’LL AND DELANEY, I THINK HE’LL MOSTLY BE REMEMBERED THAT HE GOT MOSTLY BE REMEMBERED THAT HE GOT DUMPED ON BY ELIZABETH WARREN DUMPED ON BY ELIZABETH WARREN THAT HE WASN’T SOMEHOW FIGHTING THAT HE WASN’T SOMEHOW FIGHTING FOR BIG, BOLD PLANS. FOR BIG, BOLD PLANS. AND THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO ME AND THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO ME WAS TIM RYAN, THE CONGRESSMAN WAS TIM RYAN, THE CONGRESSMAN FROM OHIO, WHO GAVE SOME OF THE FROM OHIO, WHO GAVE SOME OF THE MOST VOCIFEROUS ATTACK LINES ON MOST VOCIFEROUS ATTACK LINES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL MOSTLY OFFSTAGE MEDICARE FOR ALL MOSTLY OFFSTAGE AFTERWARDS. AFTERWARDS. HERE’S WHAT HE TOLD ME IN THE HERE’S WHAT HE TOLD ME IN THE SPIN ROOM. SPIN ROOM. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN. WHAT HAPPENS IN A DISTRICT LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN A DISTRICT LIKE YOURS IF SOMEONE LIKE THAT IS AT YOURS IF SOMEONE LIKE THAT IS AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET? THE TOP OF THE TICKET? DOES IT MAKE DEMOCRATS LIKE DOES IT MAKE DEMOCRATS LIKE YOURS HARD TO WIN IN YOUNGSTOWN, YOURS HARD TO WIN IN YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO? OHIO?>>I THINK IF WE’RE TALKING>>I THINK IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING PRIVATE HEALTH CARE ABOUT TAKING PRIVATE HEALTH CARE AWAY, WE’RE GOING TO LOSE 48 AWAY, WE’RE GOING TO LOSE 48 STATES. STATES. AND I’M HAVING A TOUGH TIME AND I’M HAVING A TOUGH TIME FIGURING OUT THE TWO WE WILL FIGURING OUT THE TWO WE WILL WIN. WIN.>>THE THING WITH RYAN, IF>>THE THING WITH RYAN, IF YOU’RE ABLE TO DELIVER IT ON THE YOU’RE ABLE TO DELIVER IT ON THE DEBATE STAGE, HE MISSED THE DEBATE STAGE, HE MISSED THE MOMENT THERE AND NOW WE GO MOMENT THERE AND NOW WE GO THROUGH THE LONG HOT SUMMER OF THROUGH THE LONG HOT SUMMER OF THESE CANDIDATES TRYING TO MAKE THESE CANDIDATES TRYING TO MAKE IT TO THE NEXT DEBATE. IT TO THE NEXT DEBATE.>>THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED LAST>>THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT. NIGHT. NOW LET’S DIG INTO WHAT IT ALL NOW LET’S DIG INTO WHAT IT ALL MEANS. MEANS. LET’S BRING IN MY FIRST GROUP OF LET’S BRING IN MY FIRST GROUP OF MSNBC CONTRIBUTORS, CHIEF PUBLIC MSNBC CONTRIBUTORS, CHIEF PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER OF MOVEON.ORG, AFFAIRS OFFICER OF MOVEON.ORG, SUSAN DEL PERCIO AND THE OFFICER SUSAN DEL PERCIO AND THE OFFICER OF THE CONSERVATIVE JOINING ME, OF THE CONSERVATIVE JOINING ME, MY DEAR FRIEND JOHN ALLEN. MY DEAR FRIEND JOHN ALLEN. CORRINE, I WANT TO PLAY THAT CORRINE, I WANT TO PLAY THAT EXCHANGE BETWEEN ELIZABETH EXCHANGE BETWEEN ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOHN DELANEY REALLY WARREN AND JOHN DELANEY REALLY CENTERED ON THIS IDEA THAT THOSE CENTERED ON THIS IDEA THAT THOSE WERE THE BIGGEST, BOLDEST IDEAS, WERE THE BIGGEST, BOLDEST IDEAS, ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD RISE UP. ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD RISE UP.>>I THINK DEMOCRATS WIN WHEN WE>>I THINK DEMOCRATS WIN WHEN WE RUN ON REAL SOLUTIONS, NOT RUN ON REAL SOLUTIONS, NOT IMPOSSIBLE PROMISES. IMPOSSIBLE PROMISES. WHEN WE RUN ON THINGS THAT ARE WHEN WE RUN ON THINGS THAT ARE WORKABLE, NOT FAIRY TALE WORKABLE, NOT FAIRY TALE ECONOMICS. ECONOMICS.>>I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY>>I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYBODY GOES TO ALL THE TROUBLE ANYBODY GOES TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES JUST TO TALK ABOUT UNITED STATES JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE REALLY CAN’T DO AND WHAT WE REALLY CAN’T DO AND SHOULDN’T FIGHT FOR. SHOULDN’T FIGHT FOR.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. THE CROWD CLEARLY LIKES THAT. THE CROWD CLEARLY LIKES THAT. IT’S DRAMATIC, IT’S BOLD, IT’S IT’S DRAMATIC, IT’S BOLD, IT’S BIG, BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE A BIG, BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE A TWEET THAT JOSH BARROW WRITES. TWEET THAT JOSH BARROW WRITES. HE WRITES, AS A REMINDER, THE HE WRITES, AS A REMINDER, THE CANDIDATES WITH MORE MODERATE CANDIDATES WITH MORE MODERATE ISSUE POSITIONING TEND TO FORM ISSUE POSITIONING TEND TO FORM BETTER IN GENERAL ELECTIONS AND BETTER IN GENERAL ELECTIONS AND ARE ACTUALLY ELECTABLE. ARE ACTUALLY ELECTABLE. THAT IS A REALITY AND NOT THAT IS A REALITY AND NOT SOMETHING TV SHOWS INVENT TO SOMETHING TV SHOWS INVENT TO PISS YOU OFF. PISS YOU OFF.>>I GET THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT>>I GET THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT THOSE TIMES. THOSE TIMES. IT WAS SUBSTANTIVE, WE TALKED IT WAS SUBSTANTIVE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES. ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES. THAT’S WONDERFUL, THAT’S THE THAT’S WONDERFUL, THAT’S THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW. DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW. BUT I WANTED THEM TO FOCUS LESS BUT I WANTED THEM TO FOCUS LESS ON EACH OTHER AND MORE ON THE ON EACH OTHER AND MORE ON THE BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS DONALD TRUMP. WHICH IS DONALD TRUMP. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE HEALTH CARE, RIGHT NOW LIKE HEALTH CARE, RIGHT NOW DONALD TRUMP’S ADMINISTRATION IS DONALD TRUMP’S ADMINISTRATION IS IN COURT RIGHT NOW TRYING TO IN COURT RIGHT NOW TRYING TO TAKE AWAY HEALTH CARE FROM TENS TAKE AWAY HEALTH CARE FROM TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN GUTTING IT REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN GUTTING IT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT IS WHY I THINK WHAT THAT IS WHY I THINK WHAT ELIZABETH WARREN SAID REALLY ELIZABETH WARREN SAID REALLY RESONATED WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE RESONATED WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY CARE. PEOPLE REALLY CARE. HEALTH CARE IS A NUMBER ONE HEALTH CARE IS A NUMBER ONE ISSUE. ISSUE. IT WASN’T IN 2018, IT WASN’T IN IT WASN’T IN 2018, IT WASN’T IN 2017. 2017. IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT GOING IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT GOING INTO 2020. INTO 2020. THERE IS A CONTRAST WITH DONALD THERE IS A CONTRAST WITH DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. WE’RE A DIFFERENT TIME. WE’RE A DIFFERENT TIME. WE ARE IN A DITCH RIGHT NOW. WE ARE IN A DITCH RIGHT NOW. SO PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, THE BASE SO PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, THE BASE WANTS TO HEAR WHAT BIG THINGS WANTS TO HEAR WHAT BIG THINGS ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR ME? ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR ME?>>BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANT>>BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ARE TO DO AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I WANT TO SHARE WHAT CLAIRE I WANT TO SHARE WHAT CLAIRE McCASKILL SAID. McCASKILL SAID. BERNIE SANDERS SAID, I WROTE THE BERNIE SANDERS SAID, I WROTE THE DAMN BILL. DAMN BILL.>>UNLESS DEMOCRATS TAKE THE>>UNLESS DEMOCRATS TAKE THE SENATE AND DECIDE TO DO AWAY SENATE AND DECIDE TO DO AWAY WITH A FILIBUSTER WHICH THEY WITH A FILIBUSTER WHICH THEY WILL NOT DO, THE INSTITUTIONAL WILL NOT DO, THE INSTITUTIONAL WILL HOLD 60 VOTES. WILL HOLD 60 VOTES. NOW, DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT A NOW, DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT A PLAN THAT WILL GIVE A GUARANTEED PLAN THAT WILL GIVE A GUARANTEED JOB TO EVERYONE WILL GET 60 JOB TO EVERYONE WILL GET 60 VOTES? VOTES? DOES ANYBODY THINK DOING AWAY DOES ANYBODY THINK DOING AWAY WITH ALL THE PRIVATE INSURANCE WITH ALL THE PRIVATE INSURANCE IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO GET IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO GET 60 VOTES? 60 VOTES?>>THESE BIG, BOLD IDEAS MIGHT>>THESE BIG, BOLD IDEAS MIGHT END US UP WITH MORE GRIDLOCK. END US UP WITH MORE GRIDLOCK.>>YEAH, ESPECIALLY IF IT>>YEAH, ESPECIALLY IF IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE THERE’S ANY DOESN’T SEEM LIKE THERE’S ANY ROOM TO COMPROMISE. ROOM TO COMPROMISE. ONE THINGIE LIZ ELIZABETH WARREN ONE THINGIE LIZ ELIZABETH WARREN BERNIE SANDERS SAID WAS TO GO BERNIE SANDERS SAID WAS TO GO BIG. BIG. I THINK THIS IS A TIME ON THE I THINK THIS IS A TIME ON THE DEBATE SEAT FOR CANDIDATES TO DEBATE SEAT FOR CANDIDATES TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, AND I INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE WINNERS OF ACTUALLY THINK THE WINNERS OF THIS DEBATE WERE THE DEMOCRATIC THIS DEBATE WERE THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS. PRIMARY VOTERS. BECAUSE THE BASE GOT THEIR — BECAUSE THE BASE GOT THEIR — THE REAL PROGRESSIVE BASE GOT THE REAL PROGRESSIVE BASE GOT THEIR PROGRESSIVES DONE, BUT THE THEIR PROGRESSIVES DONE, BUT THE MODERATE PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC MODERATE PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS, WHICH ARE THE MAJORITY, VOTERS, WHICH ARE THE MAJORITY, GOT SOMETHING ELSE. GOT SOMETHING ELSE. THEY HEARD A DIFFERENT SIDE, A THEY HEARD A DIFFERENT SIDE, A MODERATE SIDE, A DIFFERENT TAKE, MODERATE SIDE, A DIFFERENT TAKE, AND LET THE DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN. AND LET THE DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN. JUST AS AN AMERICAN, JUST AS JUST AS AN AMERICAN, JUST AS SOMEONE WATCHING, I WAS THRILLED SOMEONE WATCHING, I WAS THRILLED TO SEE IT. TO SEE IT. I WISH THE REPUBLICANS COULD I WISH THE REPUBLICANS COULD SHOW OFF THEIR POSITIONS IN SUCH SHOW OFF THEIR POSITIONS IN SUCH A GOOD WAY. A GOOD WAY.>>THAT’S A GOOD POINT.>>THAT’S A GOOD POINT. LET’S TALK ABOUT STEVE BULLOCK LET’S TALK ABOUT STEVE BULLOCK LAST NIGHT. LAST NIGHT. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SAW HIM IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SAW HIM ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. IN THE JUNE DEBATE HE SET IN THE JUNE DEBATE HE SET HIMSELF APART ON A COUPLE HIMSELF APART ON A COUPLE ISSUES, ON HEALTH CARE AND ISSUES, ON HEALTH CARE AND IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. LET’S TAKE A LISTEN. LET’S TAKE A LISTEN.>>THIS IS PART OF THE>>THIS IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT SHOWS HOW OFTEN DISCUSSION THAT SHOWS HOW OFTEN THESE DEBATES ARE DETACHED FROM THESE DEBATES ARE DETACHED FROM PEOPLE’S LIVES. PEOPLE’S LIVES. WE’VE GOT 100,000 PEOPLE SHOWING WE’VE GOT 100,000 PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT THE BORDER RIGHT NOW. UP AT THE BORDER RIGHT NOW. IF WE DECRIMINALIZE ENTRY, IF WE IF WE DECRIMINALIZE ENTRY, IF WE GIVE HEALTH CARE TO EVERYONE, GIVE HEALTH CARE TO EVERYONE, WE’LL HAVE MULTIPLES OF THAT. WE’LL HAVE MULTIPLES OF THAT. DON’T TAKE MY WORD. DON’T TAKE MY WORD. THAT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S THAT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY THAT HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY THAT SAID THAT. SAID THAT.>>MR. WILL, IF IMMIGRATION IS>>MR. WILL, IF IMMIGRATION IS THE CORNERSTONE OF DONALD THE CORNERSTONE OF DONALD TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN, TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN, WOULD A GUY LIKE STEVE BULLOCK WOULD A GUY LIKE STEVE BULLOCK IN HIS POSITION BE A REAL IN HIS POSITION BE A REAL PROBLEM FOR HIM? PROBLEM FOR HIM?>>I THINK HE WOULD, BECAUSE>>I THINK HE WOULD, BECAUSE WHAT MR. TRUMP WANTS TO DO IS WHAT MR. TRUMP WANTS TO DO IS RUN AGAINST THE STRAW MAN, OR AT RUN AGAINST THE STRAW MAN, OR AT LEAST IT SEEMED TO BE A STRAW LEAST IT SEEMED TO BE A STRAW MAN UNTIL RECENTLY, THE COUNTRY MAN UNTIL RECENTLY, THE COUNTRY IS FOR OPEN BORDERS. IS FOR OPEN BORDERS. THE COUNTRY IS NOT FOR OPEN THE COUNTRY IS NOT FOR OPEN BORDERS. BORDERS. THERE WAS ANOTHER THING HE SAID THERE WAS ANOTHER THING HE SAID THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT. THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT. HE SAID IT USED TO BE HE SAID IT USED TO BE REPUBLICANS THAT TALKED ABOUT REPUBLICANS THAT TALKED ABOUT REPEALING AND REPLACING REPEALING AND REPLACING OBAMACARE, NOW IT’S DEMOCRATS. OBAMACARE, NOW IT’S DEMOCRATS. ONE OF THE FASCINATING ASPECTS ONE OF THE FASCINATING ASPECTS OF THIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC OF THIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES TO THE LEFT ARE CANDIDATES TO THE LEFT ARE SAYING THAT THE HEALTH CARE SAYING THAT THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN AMERICA IS SO BAD THAT SYSTEM IN AMERICA IS SO BAD THAT IT HAS TO BE RADICALLY IT HAS TO BE RADICALLY OVERHAULED. OVERHAULED. WHAT THE DEVIL DO ALL THOSE WHAT THE DEVIL DO ALL THOSE YEARS AND PAY SUCH A HAD HE EVER YEARS AND PAY SUCH A HAD HE EVER FOR DOING IT IN PUTTING FOR DOING IT IN PUTTING OBAMACARE IN PLACE? OBAMACARE IN PLACE? THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE SAME IS TRUE FOR IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEPORTATIONS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEPORTATIONS, AND WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS AND WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, THEY’LL UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, THEY’LL SEE THE OPEN BORDERS IS NOT A SEE THE OPEN BORDERS IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC PARTY POSITION. DEMOCRATIC PARTY POSITION.>>JOHN ALLEN, MANY WATCHED LAST>>JOHN ALLEN, MANY WATCHED LAST NIGHT’S DEBATES AND THOUGHT THE NIGHT’S DEBATES AND THOUGHT THE MORE PROGRESSIVE WING, ELIZABETH MORE PROGRESSIVE WING, ELIZABETH WARREN SPECIFICALLY, HAD AN WARREN SPECIFICALLY, HAD AN ALL-STAR NIGHT. ALL-STAR NIGHT. YOUR ANALYSIS WAS A LITTLE BIT YOUR ANALYSIS WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING DIFFERENT WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT SANDERS AND ELIZABETH ABOUT SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN. WARREN. YOU SAY IF THEY WERE GOING TO YOU SAY IF THEY WERE GOING TO DEMONSTRATE CONVINCINGLY THAT IT DEMONSTRATE CONVINCINGLY THAT IT WOULD TAKE BIG, BOLD, IMPRESSIVE WOULD TAKE BIG, BOLD, IMPRESSIVE POLICY IDEAS TO BEAT DONALD POLICY IDEAS TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP, SURELY IT WOULD HAVE TRUMP, SURELY IT WOULD HAVE HELPED TO WIPE THE FLOOR WITH HELPED TO WIPE THE FLOOR WITH THE EIGHT OTHER DEMOCRATS ON THE EIGHT OTHER DEMOCRATS ON STAGE WITH THEM. STAGE WITH THEM. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN, NOT AT ALL. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN, NOT AT ALL. THIS WAS THE LEFT’S FIRST BIG THIS WAS THE LEFT’S FIRST BIG SHOT AND IT JUST DIDN’T HIT. SHOT AND IT JUST DIDN’T HIT. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THE WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THE CASE? CASE?>>I THINK THE REAL CASE THERE,>>I THINK THE REAL CASE THERE, STEPHANIE, IS YOU HAD WARREN AND STEPHANIE, IS YOU HAD WARREN AND SANDERS, AND AS GEORGE IS SANDERS, AND AS GEORGE IS POINTING OUT ON HEALTH CARE POINTING OUT ON HEALTH CARE HERE, BASICALLY RUNNING AGAINST HERE, BASICALLY RUNNING AGAINST BARACK OBAMA AND RUNNING AGAINST BARACK OBAMA AND RUNNING AGAINST OBAMACARE. OBAMACARE. IF YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE THE CASE IF YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE THE CASE FOR THE BIG STRUCTURAL REFORMS, FOR THE BIG STRUCTURAL REFORMS, YOU’VE GOT TO CONVINCE A LOT OF YOU’VE GOT TO CONVINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE PROGRESSIVES BUT ALSO THE PROGRESSIVES BUT ALSO THE CENTRIST PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC CENTRIST PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALSO SWING VOTERS IN PARTY AND ALSO SWING VOTERS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THAT YOUR THE GENERAL ELECTION THAT YOUR CAUSE IS RIGHT, THAT YOUR IDEAS CAUSE IS RIGHT, THAT YOUR IDEAS ARE BEST AND YOU CAN IMPLEMENT ARE BEST AND YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THEM. THEM. I THINK THEY WERE MET WITH I THINK THEY WERE MET WITH PRETTY FIERY RESISTANCE ON STAGE PRETTY FIERY RESISTANCE ON STAGE LAST NIGHT. LAST NIGHT. IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME THERE WAS A IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME THERE WAS A HUGE AGGRESSIVE WIN ON THE LEFT. HUGE AGGRESSIVE WIN ON THE LEFT. IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT WARREN IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT WARREN AND SANDERS WERE NOT MORE AND SANDERS WERE NOT MORE APPEALING TO THE BASE, BUT THEY APPEALING TO THE BASE, BUT THEY WERE BASICALLY RUNNING AGAINST WERE BASICALLY RUNNING AGAINST THE CREW OF ALSO-RANS LAST NIGHT THE CREW OF ALSO-RANS LAST NIGHT AND WEREN’T ABLE TO WIPE THEM AND WEREN’T ABLE TO WIPE THEM OUT. OUT. HOW DO THEY EXPECT TO GO UP HOW DO THEY EXPECT TO GO UP AGAINST JOE BIDEN AND BEAT HIM AGAINST JOE BIDEN AND BEAT HIM IN A DEBATE ON THESE ISSUES AND IN A DEBATE ON THESE ISSUES AND HOW DO THEY EXPECT TO GO UP HOW DO THEY EXPECT TO GO UP AGAINST TRUMP AND BEAT HIM IN A AGAINST TRUMP AND BEAT HIM IN A DEBATE ON THESE ISSUES? DEBATE ON THESE ISSUES? IF THEY’RE GOING TO DO THAT, I IF THEY’RE GOING TO DO THAT, I THINK THEY HAVE TO SHARPEN THEM. THINK THEY HAVE TO SHARPEN THEM. LET ME SAY ONE OTHER QUICK LET ME SAY ONE OTHER QUICK THING, STEPHANIE. THING, STEPHANIE. YOU ARE A BRIGHT PSYCHIC FORCE YOU ARE A BRIGHT PSYCHIC FORCE IN THIS UNIVERSE, NOT THE DARK IN THIS UNIVERSE, NOT THE DARK PSYCHIC FORCE THAT THEY WERE PSYCHIC FORCE THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT. TALKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT.>>I APPRECIATE THAT, JOHN, AND>>I APPRECIATE THAT, JOHN, AND MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 1 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 1 PERCENTERS FOR JUST ONE MORE PERCENTERS FOR JUST ONE MORE MOMENT BECAUSE OUR FRIEND TIM MOMENT BECAUSE OUR FRIEND TIM O’BRIEN WROTE THIS ON TWITTER. O’BRIEN WROTE THIS ON TWITTER. THERE ARE SENATE RACES TO BE THERE ARE SENATE RACES TO BE ENTERED IN TEXAS, MONTANA AND ENTERED IN TEXAS, MONTANA AND COLORADO, AND I CAN THINK OF COLORADO, AND I CAN THINK OF THREE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE THREE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THEM THIS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THEM THIS MORNING. MORNING. HE’S OBVIOUSLY TALKING TO BETO HE’S OBVIOUSLY TALKING TO BETO O’ROURKE, STEVE BULLOCK AND JOHN O’ROURKE, STEVE BULLOCK AND JOHN HICKENLOOPER. HICKENLOOPER. HE’S SAYING, BOYS, LET’S GET HE’S SAYING, BOYS, LET’S GET REAL. REAL. THERE ARE OTHER POSITIONS TO BE THERE ARE OTHER POSITIONS TO BE WON. WON. THINK ABOUT IT. THINK ABOUT IT.>>I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT>>I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT. SENTIMENT. LAST NIGHT WAS ABOUT THAT LOWER LAST NIGHT WAS ABOUT THAT LOWER 1% FOLKS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED 1% FOLKS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED TO REALLY BREAK OUT, HAVE A TO REALLY BREAK OUT, HAVE A BREAKOUT MOMENT AND GET THAT BREAKOUT MOMENT AND GET THAT TICKET TO THE DEBATE IN HOUSTON TICKET TO THE DEBATE IN HOUSTON IN SEPTEMBER. IN SEPTEMBER. IF YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO IF YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO SEPTEMBER, YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO SEPTEMBER, YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO THAT DEBATE, THEN I THINK YOUR THAT DEBATE, THEN I THINK YOUR CAMPAIGN IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO CAMPAIGN IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE OVER. BE OVER. WHAT HE SAID PLAYS INTO WHAT WHAT HE SAID PLAYS INTO WHAT CLAIRE McCASKILL’S POINT IS, IF CLAIRE McCASKILL’S POINT IS, IF DEMOCRATS DON’T HAVE THE SENATE, DEMOCRATS DON’T HAVE THE SENATE, WE CAN’T JUST FOCUS ON THE WHITE WE CAN’T JUST FOCUS ON THE WHITE HOUSE. HOUSE. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE SENATE WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE AS WE SEE NOW, AND THE HOUSE AS WE SEE NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, THEN WHERE DO WE HAVE YEARS, THEN WHERE DO WE HAVE THESE IDEAS THAT REALLY TRULY GO THESE IDEAS THAT REALLY TRULY GO NOWHERE? NOWHERE? SO I DO AGREE THESE FOLKS NEED SO I DO AGREE THESE FOLKS NEED TO REALLY START THINKING TO REALLY START THINKING SERIOUSLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

100 thoughts on “Health Care And Immigration Dominate 2nd Democratic Debate | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

  1. These are stupid arguments. How much do we pay in healthcare premiums vs Medicare? Insurance is waaay more expensive and doesn't even cover the cost of testing. Why not allow all small business, underemployed and self employed people to opt in to Medicare?

  2. Should we offer medicine to an undocumented immigrant in our custody when they are sick? Of course we should!!! These arguments are getting silly. Trump has twisted the soul of this nation.

  3. President Trump just needs to focus on the great economy, low taxes and regulations, Venezuela, anti-abortion, deporting illegal aliens instead of giving them free healthcare, pro capital punishment, anti prisoner and convict voting rights, anti- reparations, religious freedom, first and second amendment…. if he does this then he has the election in the bag

  4. Why won't the media mention the beatings by police to protesters across Europe? Because they are anti-globalism.

  5. The times they are changing and the moderates are not wanted. Trump crept up on us because every time the Dems give the Repubs an inch they take a yard.

  6. Ryan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He should go over to the Republicans and just admit that he wants to support expensive and unsupportable healthcare that puts big money into the corporatists' pockets and fails to deliver healthcare to the vast majority of America. Ryan drop out and save those few people who are pumping money into your campaign to keep the status quo. I totally agree that Hickenlooper, Beto, and Bullock should run for the Senate seats. They will be far more effective in those key positions.

  7. Over here in civilisation – UK, we have universal health care it costs $4200 per capita, compared to $10,000 in USA. It's more moral, rosources are pooled, no insurance clauses, priority given to the greatest need. Less than 0.4% goes to health tourism

  8. I'm from Canada 🇨🇦 & single payer is the way to go. Your system is so corrupt I'm not sure if that will ever happen. Warren & Sanders are your best shot to make it happen.

  9. IS TRUMP A FULL MOON LUNITIC & Henchman Stevin Miller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Idb_XtcAOA&list=PLdCv6UuW-2rnpn5IHMVtgp-mGXk1li0bk

  10. Why does the size of your employer determine the quality of your healthcare? The big corporations want to marginalize the competition…THAT'S WHY!!

  11. The best part about all this is watching dems squirm. Seeing the deep state and media scrambling. D.C. in PANIC

  12. You get health insurance from your employer- – – UNTIL YOU GET FIRED from your job?
    THAT IS JUST HOW THE CORPORATIONS LIKE IT!
    What else can CORPORATE MEDIA DO except bash Sanders & Warren!!
    WAIT till you hear how they praise the "zero sum" MUMBLING from Biden , he will do their bidding 24/7…

  13. The candidates are picking to pursue things that poll better the farther left you go. I wonder if someone should tell them moderates, conservatives, and swing voters are unimpressed.

  14. If employers did not cover the cost of your health insurance then they would have to offer other ways to incentivize you to work for them. Like, oooh…I don't know…PAY YOU MORE!! #wakeupamerica

  15. Republicans NEVER compromise or moderate, they just push through trickle down voodoo economic tax cuts, blocks to gun safety, etc.

  16. OH NO THEY ARE TAKING OUR MONEY AWAY!!
    Sorry, Corporatist schills, the gig is up. You've gotten lazy in how easy its been to steal wealth from the American people. Those days are done, stop crying about it.

    #Bernie2020

  17. I live in a red state where just over one third of the jobs offer health insurance, nationally it's about one half. That's with low unemployment. Adding a plan is necessary since health is a for profit industry.

  18. Democrats loved when Obama depleted our military and got rid of 500 of our greatest military leaders. Traitor

  19. Dems want to go back to closing down manufacturing companies, sending millions of jobs overseas. deleting Top Secret emails, bailing out rich bankers with taxpayers money, fake news, rigged elections, open borders, high unemployment, massive corruption, NWOrder globalists agenda, Russian Hoax, depleted military.

  20. In Canada we do have private health insurance. National healthcare is run through a thing called the Canada Health Transfer that delegates money to the provinces to support healthcare. The money is taken from federal tax dollars to relieve the burden on the provinces. Even with this healthcare costs rack up to roughly 35% of the provincial budgets.

    What my American friends don't understand is that while many parts of healthcare are free, it isn't universal. Private insurance is required for dental, ambulances and prescription drugs. Line ups are long and a serious surgery can take months in waiting. Medical innovations are stifled because of the tight resources in the healthcare system.

    The difference is that Canada, we believe that these risks are worth the reward. As a consequence of people having immediate access to care and routine checkups, the price of prescription drugs has dramatically fallen with private insurance. When I bought my ear spray for an infection, cost with insurance was $70. Still a lot, however that price was 10% of the market value.

    I hope this brings clarity to the healthcare debate in the US.

  21. Republicans can do the most extraordinary (are horrifying) things when they want to but these centrist Dems seem to think they can't do the same when in power? DO WHAT THE REPUBLICANS DO!

  22. We already have socialist medicine in this country. It's called Medicare and the VA Administration. Let's see… how's that working out? Bloated, horribly expensive bureaucracies with poor services and poor choices. Other countries have it, but only the super rich can afford to come here and pay cash for the best medical products and services on earth. BTW, MSNBC=PRAVDA

  23. Why should it matter then if it brings out the base? I mean if none of it is going to happened and it brings out the base, shouldn't moderates want that?

  24. Lots of salty cranky people here not understanding that with 20 candidates everybody gets to share their opinion of how to get to universal healthcare. How that’s MSNBC pushing an agenda only makes sense if giving everyone a voice is objectionable to you.

    Highlighting the contrast gives voters the opportunity to choose. Everybody gets to make their case.

  25. It is true that Medicare payment rates are currently for a specific demographic and are often actually lower than the cost of providing care for patients. Similarly Medicaid payments are generally lower than the cost of treatment. Hospitals make up for that largely by relying on private insurance payments. Medicare-for-all could become an absolute nightmare without taking these things into consideration. If Medicare-for-all reduced overhead costs for doctors and hospitals in some way than that could help, but dealing with payment rates is a really complicated thing. Probably there would be many doctors that wouldn't accept the payment rates which would mean more out of pocket expense for individuals, which sort of defeats the purpose..

  26. These people at the border who walk hundreds of miles mean business and deserve asylum. No, they are not terrorists! LET THEM SO THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO AMERICAN SOCIETY!!!! Quit hating on Bernie when he is right in what he is saying!!!!!!!!!!

  27. The democrats are so far left that even the moderates are still not in touch with what their base is telling them. The seam to be only catering to the radical parts of the party. If they continue down this path they will hand the white house to Trump for four more years.

  28. Trying to get my family out the street any donation we’ll be extremely deeply appreciated🙏🏽💯
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  29. The DNC has already chosen it's candidate, just like in 2016. We'll just have to wait for the unveiling to happen at a later date. Meanwhile, enjoy the show🙄

  30. All democrat lunatics especially yelling angry looking Sanders & nervouse looking sounding basket case Warren they all are big joke…America has been doing great again ever since Trump has been in office..*TRUMP2020*

  31. So with the dims, NO ONE will have jobs, but EVERYBODY will have free health care? . . Yep! I think I'll be voting for Trump!!

  32. I don't understand why they don't broadcast a live debate. Probably so they can bleep out the stupid stuff. Oh, but it's all stupid!

  33. Huh. Where’s global warming? The border, Medicare, etc is good and all, but global warming WILL affect us all, so can we stop fighting over now, and focus on how can we prepare for later

  34. How dare you talk about ending the filth of man's control over healthcare.
    You know that the poor 1% soulless Gentiles need more money.

  35. Clown circus 101. What a joke these idiots actually think the American public believes what they have to say.

  36. This sounds like the Democrats are having a behind closed doors on how it is possible they win… they can not agree on anything.

  37. Look at all the tears from kids living off their parents lol Looks like they will need to get jobs by 2020 No free money for you kids What if we deport illegals and make our shiftless youth take those jobs?

  38. Hey can anyone post links to msnbc's corporate ties that might shed light on their biases when covering these candidates?

  39. Stephanie, you lost me after you coyly asked what would be the big deal if Donald Trump's taxes were not revealed. You said, what do we need to embarrass him some more? that was the last day of your show for me.

  40. 😮 30 years ago Americans would of had to pay good money for this comedy act,but it PROGRESSIVELY turned into reality 😢

  41. It has become clear that the Democratic Party is the heart of the evil,that tries to destroy America. They are racists and evil to their core and need to be stopped at all costs. Dump them on the history trash pile along with the Nazi party.

  42. Open Letter

    Democratic Platform

    The Democratic Party will begin by defining the most fundamental concept known to this citizenry. We will define three words “We the People” from this date forward is shall mean whomever is within the boundaries and jurisdictions of these United States and wishes to remain shall be granted citizenship.

    The Democratic Party shall have three stratus, Federal focusing on infrastructure and International Affairs, State infrastructure and promoting corporate structures (States acting as true non profits returning gains back to people), Local promoting and protecting corporate structures. All public building shall be open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so the public can seek assistance or shelter.

    The Democratic Party understands that we have the infrastructure and the systems to cultivate any number of individuals into productive citizens. Our hopes for the future is that some of these who migrate will staying while others get dispersed with the intellectual seeds of our culture. Simultaneously we will have a foreign policy that encourages trade relations that accomplishes two things immediately. The first and most obvious is that trade see no barrier. The second and less obvious is to allow the financial flow to be such that we elevate all societies that come into a trade relationship with these United States to the highest standard known to us.

    The Democratic Party will do this, not by creating a new legal scheme, but to use legislation that is already in place. This Democratic Party will use the Commerce Clause as the main construction tool to construct new paths to economic success. As a check we will use the first amendment to encourage discourse in case problems should arise.

    The Democratic Party has identified the legislation that will be our core piece of legislation; we now introduce a corporate structure that is “the most favored trust.” This entity will have a birth date, specific purpose, management team, the ability to raise capital in any market, no tax liabilities (except for sales tax for the given state and local municipality), and a definite well-defined lifespan of 75 years, the management team shall be charged with the duties of managing the entity one year at a time, dispersing monthly dividends minus the following year expected costs. This management team will not engage in any investment or other enterprise this will be the sole domain of the investor.

    The Democratic Party will no longer argue at what rate the top 10 or the top 1% is taxed. To this sector of our society the United States every year will adjust the tax rate according to national need. We come to a conclusion on this matter, this argument detracts from our focus to better society.

    The Democratic Party will view the educational and medical institutions as support institutions that will be well-defined and well-funded. On the educational topic we are well developed as a society to define what is important in order to put forth a program that will prepare any citizen for any of the well-defined industry or professional field they wish to follow. Specifically, medical professionals coming out of our educational system by nature of the structured environment will provide a set of services at a very well-defined set cost. In this industry the Democratic Party will separate what is operational and well-established from medical research.

    The Democratic Party will also promote environmental well-being by putting material development, material engineering with environmental vigilance. While promoting the development of materials for the use of our societal needs we will also use these materials to understand how they impact our environment upon reentry. These findings and these research endeavors will start here in the United States but will be dispersed throughout the world for the benefit of humankind.

    The Democratic Party will promote compact cities with definable permanent boundaries drawing from the New Urbanist view.

    The Democratic Party understands that personal and business relationships is bound by contract, in other words no contract no enforceable relationship.

    The Democratic Party will stop at the second amendment and come to an understanding that, while in the past the party has advocated for gun control, which is met with resistance. We will now advocate for gun education for everyone. This education shall be commenced at the high school level the actual program will be left for the local communities.

  43. Open Letter

    The Wall

    Since, I live in Texas I have to make this statement directly to those that are conducting a build the wall campaign. This migrant stream was created and sustained by American business special interest. To this day, it is Hispanic labor that you see most visible in the trades, hospitality and general workforce. I asked this to those that hold what I would consider a hateful point of view.

    I asked this question specifically to the Texas state politicians, “where have you been during the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, to present-day 2019, Hispanic labor has worked hard to build up the state of Texas and they been doing it out in the open, so why the hypocrisy now?” Just in case there are readers from other states, immigration has been occurring for such a long time and has been developed by American business interest I will add just a few states and their estimated migrant community: California (2,350,000), Texas (1,650,000), Florida (850,000), New York (775,000), New Jersey (500,000), Illinois (450,000), Georgia (375,000), North Carolina (350,000), Arizona (325,000), Virginia (300,000), Maryland (250,000).

    In doing a brief survey of wages of Central America which includes Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. While we have the build the wall movement becoming vocal I have not seen anyone from this political point of view addressing the “why” they are coming. When offered a suggestion that we speed up the registration process at the border the reaction is to discourage the process suggested. But more importantly no one addresses the Central American wage scheme.

    I will try to keep the wage descriptions consistent over this discussion and convert the wages to dollars:

    • In Costa Rica I found that for a general employee the wage is about $11.15 a day,

    • In the Dominican Republic wages are reported on a monthly basis which range from general employees $134 up to $221,

    • In El Salvador the agricultural workers get paid $2 a day,

    • In Guatemala you see wages from $2.81 to $3.73 a day.

    I will restate that the wall is immoral because in my view this nation is parasitic in nature extracting raw material and knowingly allowing the wages of the general workforce to be depressed. And I have stated in the past that the more intrepid Central Americans are heroes and they will walk thousands of miles to better themselves economically. All the while, the United States punishes people with spirit, by conducting a “build a wall” campaign. Thank you for reading.

  44. You will loses, opening the borders will ruin our country. You can’t bring South America to the United States. That’s why dems will loses
    There will no longer be a middle class because we will not be able to pay for it all. Thanks Government.

  45. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND NAKED CORPORATIST/ESTABLISHMENT PROPAGANDA…MSNBC "MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL"…YOU SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY ASHAMED

  46. Trump now has the Centrist, Conservative, and Nationalist vote. Democrats only have Progressive and Liberal. Bidden doesn't represent the pink haired Nihilists so they won't even vote for him.

  47. These people are running for president? Where are all the American flags? Cricket, cricket… democrats are not American patriots, they hate this country. #walkaway

  48. Poor immigrants take up welfare, low skill jobs, spread disease/drug use, and cause crime. Higher intelligent immigrants take university spots, higher skilled jobs, and buy up real estate. In essence steal opportunities, market share and social capital from our people. In short both groups are bad and contribute to the demographic replacement of the west and essentially white genocide.

  49. MSNBC, and the Democrats hate America, and Americans hate them right back. Raise your hand if you're a brainless twits.

  50. How many people have been deported under Obama?

    President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

    Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

    How does he compare to other presidents?

    According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

    In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.

    President George W. Bush's administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last year in office, for which data is not yet available.

    YO QUISIERA SABER POR QUE NADIE LLAMA OBAMA RACISTA >> I just like to know why no one call Obama racis ? And I know the answer > you are too afraid to call a black man for what he is. >>>>>>>>>> AMERICA FIRTS <<<<<<<<<<<

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